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Lusitan Citoyen


Nombre de messages : 53 Localisation : Portugal
 | Sujet: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 17:12 | |
|  Turkey and Azerbeijan are not included, at first NEUSP was considering including the wasn't it? | |
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Nombre de messages : 18530 Localisation : Europe-Nation
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 17:16 | |
| All right, thanks for the map. Normally, neither Turkey nor Azerbaidjan, indeed. I see that the other continent have been also "transformed". | |
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Lusitan Citoyen


Nombre de messages : 53 Localisation : Portugal
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 17:25 | |
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- All right, thanks for the map. Normally, neither Turkey nor Azerbaidjan, indeed. I see that the other continent have been also "transformed".
Yes, some times you refer India and Greater Iran, so I've included those, as well as other possible blocks, allways based of course in the common identities of diffrent peoples of the world. | |
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Nombre de messages : 18530 Localisation : Europe-Nation
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 17:34 | |
| The linguistic differences between Northern Indians (indo-aryans) and Souther Indians (dravidians) are not cultural. The indian culture is one. For example, there are dravidians (the Brahuis) in Pakistan. The both ones are very linked, fused. | |
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Nombre de messages : 53 Localisation : Portugal
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 17:49 | |
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- The linguistic differences between Northern Indians (indo-aryans) and Souther Indians (dravidians) are not cultural. The indian culture is one. For example, there are dravidians (the Brahuis) in Pakistan. The both ones are very linked, fused.
Identity is not just culture, dravidians have a different origin and heritage, indians consider that there is a major division - the indo-aryans the davidians and the tibeto-birmans, that's why there are separatist movements like the tamil tigers in Sri Lanka, dravidians consider that they have a different identity. Respectfully. | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Dim 12 Nov - 21:18 | |
| Dravidians are a major element (ethnic) in India, in North and South, in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Indians are an admixture of dravidians and aryas (iranian origin), except a minority strictally arya (Bollywood celebrities for example). Dravidians have also an influence in Iran and Iraq (Saddam). In Antiquity, they were a great people (proto-caucasoid) with glorious civilisations. |
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Nombre de messages : 18530 Localisation : Europe-Nation
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Lun 13 Nov - 0:47 | |
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- Dravidians are a major element (ethnic) in India, in North and South, in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Indians are an admixture of dravidians and aryas (iranian origin), except a minority strictly arya (Bollywood celebrities for example).
Dravidians have also an influence in Iran and Iraq (Saddam). In Antiquity, they were a great people (proto-caucasoid) with glorious civilisations. It is difficult to say because the indusian civilisation could be in fact indo-european (sanskritic), on the opinion of more and more specialists. The book of Michel Danino, "L'Inde et l'invasion de nulle part", is very convincing about this. | |
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 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Mar 14 Nov - 20:05 | |
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It is difficult to say because the indusian civilisation could be in fact indo-european (sanskritic), on the opinion of more and more specialists. The book of Michel Danino, "L'Inde et l'invasion de nulle part", is very convincing about this. How do you then explain existence of a dravid (linguistic) community in Pakistan (extreme North of the Indian sub-continent) ? Danino is convinced that Indo-European/Dravidian cleavage is futile, in dissension with you (no aryan invasion in India for him)... |
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Nombre de messages : 18530 Localisation : Europe-Nation
 | Sujet: Re: Imaginary Political map of the future Mar 14 Nov - 23:46 | |
| For me, and in fact for Danino, the indo-european "invasion" is simply largely older than the generally accepted date. In fact, I think that the indo-european settlement in Europe was at the paleolithic.
A linguistic dravidian community exists in Pakistan, the Brahuis, not so different than the Elamites. But in Europe, there also exists non-indo-european communities as the Basques or the Georgians. | |
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