Balthazar
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 |  Sujet: Le mystère de l'origine du nom Manu  Sam 22 Mar - 6:22 | |
| | Citation: | Root / lemma: manu-s or monu-s
English meaning: man
German meaning: `Mann, Mensch'
Material: Old Indian mánu-, mánuṣ- `person, man, husband' (also `Ahnherr the people'), av. in PN Manus-čiϑra-, proto germ. *manu̯az in PN Mannus (Tacitus), Stammvater the Deutschen, got. manna (Gen. mans), aisl. maðr, mannr, ags. afries. ahd. mann `man, husband', got. mannisks, aisl. mennskr, ags. ahd. mennisc `menschlich'; ahd. mannisko etc. `person'; Old Church Slavic možь, russ. muž `man, husband' (*mangi̯a-, suffix similarly as in lit. žmo-g-ùs `person').
Probably hom. Menelaus diminutive form of'husband'
Maybe the root word is related to the name of the moon in PIE; Menelaus `moon godö'; also egypt. Menesö `lion of revenge' (the chariot of the moon was pulled by lions in Egypt). Lion was the beast that fell from the moon.
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In Sanskrit, the name Manu appropriately came to mean "man" or "mankind" (since Manu, or Noah, was the father of all post-flood mankind). The word is related to the Germanic Mannus, the founder of the West Germanic peoples. Mannus was mentioned by the Roman historian Tacitus in his book Germania. Mannus is also the name of the Lithuanian Noah. Another Sanskrit form. manusa is closely related to the Swedish manniska, both words meaning "human being."
The same name may even be reflected in the Egyptian Menes (founder of the first dynasty of Egypt) and Minos (founder and first king of Crete). Minos was also said in Greek mythology to be the son of Zeus and ruler of the sea.
The English word "man" is thus also related to the Sanskrit manu, as well as its equivalents in other Germanic languages. Gothic, the oldest known Germanic language, used the form Manna, and also gaman ("fellow man").
The name Anu appears in Sumerian as the god of the firmament, and the rainbow was called "the great bow of Anu," which seems a clear reference to Noah (note Genesis 9:13). In Egyptian mythology Nu was the god of waters who sent an inundation to destroy mankind. Nu and his consort Nut were deities of the firmament and the rain. Nu was identified with the primeval watery mass of heaven, his name also meaning "sky." |
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| | Sujet: Re: Le mystère de l'origine du nom Manu Sam 22 Mar - 12:26 | |
| Je ne vois ps où est le mystère, puisque *Manus était le premier homme, et par extension l'homme en général (variante: *ghemon, le "terrien", ou encore *wiros).
Je veux bien imaginer un lien avec Minos, mais pas avec Menes/Narmer, premier roi mythique égyptien, et c'est sans aucun rapport avec le dieu du ciel sumérien Anu. |
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| | Sujet: Re: Le mystère de l'origine du nom Manu Sam 22 Mar - 20:44 | |
| Je ne vois pas pourquoi le m aurait disparu. Ce sont des rapprochements douteux, comme celui de Martu et de *Maworts (=> Mars), quoique dans ce cas il y a au moins une similitude fonctionnelle (Martu est le dieu de l'orage des Sumériens). Anu est l'équivalent du *Dyeus indo-européen, pas de *Manus.
Après, je veux bien croire que la langue sumérienne ait une parenté avec les langues indo-européennes (mais aussi altaïques), mais cela s'expliquerait alors par le nostratique. |
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